tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post113269440319456483..comments2023-10-20T21:46:49.945+08:00Comments on Philippine Commentary: Metaphor of the Single JetlinerDeany Bocobohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1132817567792581892005-11-24T15:32:00.000+08:002005-11-24T15:32:00.000+08:00Folks please remember that when you post on Philip...Folks please remember that when you post on Philippine Commentary your comments become a part of the overall post. so John Marzan -- thank you for your additions to the post of a substantial and informative matter that improves the content. The comment section is a whetstone for me to prepare the next leaf in the growing tree of Philippine Commentary. Thanks all for your valuable thoughts. Keep it coming.Deany Bocobohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1132817326902808942005-11-24T15:28:00.000+08:002005-11-24T15:28:00.000+08:00XP -- ANOTHER thought occurs to me for your friend...XP -- ANOTHER thought occurs to me for your friends with the answer on Spanish--did they email you? What language was it in? I've nothing against Spain, really, and I should describe in a fresh post just exactly what her contribution was to the Philippines, which is surely considerable. But this discussion was about language as a meme, as an infectious idea. The broader point being we are NOT Asians or Hispanics. We are orphans of the Anglosphere. We know Shakespeare far better than Miguel de Cervantes, because we encounter the Man of La Mancha in English not Spanish! You don't own the language. The language owns you -- thats "bardolatry"Deany Bocobohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1132816163821113082005-11-24T15:09:00.000+08:002005-11-24T15:09:00.000+08:00Welcome, REGOR, and I hope you shall add to our co...Welcome, REGOR, and I hope you shall add to our conversations...Welcome!Deany Bocobohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1132816083051273022005-11-24T15:08:00.000+08:002005-11-24T15:08:00.000+08:00XP -- it was precisely their policy not to have su...XP -- it was precisely their policy not to have such public education IN language, but there was plenty of Parochial education going on -- the Catholic Catechism taught by rote in pidgin native tongues learnt by the frailes. It was I think tragic that Spain never took the Filipinos for their own. As why should they, for 80% of their reign, the Philippines was mainly an entrepot for trade with China. The galleons brought stuff from the New World (gold and silver) to buy stuff from the fleet of Chinese junks that arrived to meet them in Manila. But whatever the reason, the fact the Spanish never lived in the hearts and tongues of the masses of Filipinos is: Spain never taught it. They were trying to win souls not citizens.Deany Bocobohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1132815856465486812005-11-24T15:04:00.000+08:002005-11-24T15:04:00.000+08:00Edwin, right now I'm chewing my nails over the SEA...Edwin, right now I'm chewing my nails over the SEA Games Opening on Sunday. It's at the Luneta, they expect 300,000 people from dozens of countries. And Dulmatin and Radulan Sahiron have not been caught, though Julius Babao and Tiongco are safe! It certainly too late now in case JI have bought box tickets for the 395 separate public events in 8 cities.Deany Bocobohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1132796572560486142005-11-24T09:42:00.000+08:002005-11-24T09:42:00.000+08:00Again re. the Spaniards...Some people have answer ...Again re. the Spaniards...<BR/><BR/>Some people have answer to your they-never-taught-us Spanish complaint: "There was no public education at the time, here or anywhere else in the world."Resty Odonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06308416791417331341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1132762909158846632005-11-24T00:21:00.000+08:002005-11-24T00:21:00.000+08:00DJB,I really appreciate the view that you posit in...DJB,<BR/><BR/>I really appreciate the view that you posit in your blogs. Your viewpoint is not always in line with the rest of the Filipino bloggers but it is a necessary, alternative viewpoint to consider.<BR/><BR/>We look at the anti-terror law as mostly an invasion of our civil and political rights, no thanks to some congressmen who threatened to use the terror law to stifle dissent. But your internationalist view compels us to enact the terror law and I happen to agree with that. <BR/><BR/>That is what makes it tragic. I think the people will welcome the law but our congressmen have myopia, our executive branch does not sufficiently reassure us, and we have this tragic rape case which is giving Americans a black eye.<BR/><BR/>You need to bullhorn this urgent bill lest it becomes too late. Maybe, the solons are waiting for a great tragedy to befall us before they wake up to their senses. <BR/><BR/>Fools because they are intellectual dwarfs and greater fools because they do not consult your blog!Edwin Lacierdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02498998943215285752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1132752197296395532005-11-23T21:23:00.000+08:002005-11-23T21:23:00.000+08:00A Warm Welcome Phil! We shall need all the brain c...A Warm Welcome Phil! We shall need all the brain cells we can gather. No one has all the answers. But asking the right question sometimes is the key. Please feel at home!Deany Bocobohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1132748566013671172005-11-23T20:22:00.000+08:002005-11-23T20:22:00.000+08:00Mr Rizalist, I just found your blog. I live here i...Mr Rizalist, I just found your blog. I live here in the Philippines, and the terrorism issue is never far from my mind. Your commentary is right on the mark. I'll be checking in a lot I'm sure!PhilippinesPhilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15921214743105919057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1132744022758679392005-11-23T19:07:00.000+08:002005-11-23T19:07:00.000+08:00Where is Tiongco now? Desaparecido too?Where is Tiongco now? Desaparecido too?Deany Bocobohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1132742849058734502005-11-23T18:47:00.000+08:002005-11-23T18:47:00.000+08:00i believe what PCIJ reported on the ish.i believe what PCIJ reported on the ish.john marzanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08036820667908976630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1132739218107475802005-11-23T17:46:00.000+08:002005-11-23T17:46:00.000+08:00Good eye John! I can always use the informnation t...Good eye John! I can always use the informnation to fill in the blanks in my own knowledge. For the next post! thanks for dropping by.<BR/><BR/>Does this mean you believe Babao had nothing to do with it? Not even transpo?Deany Bocobohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1132737975696167022005-11-23T17:26:00.000+08:002005-11-23T17:26:00.000+08:00btw, matagal nang "at war" ang admin na ito sa med...btw, matagal nang "at war" ang admin na ito sa media.<BR/><BR/>know your enemy, dean.<BR/><BR/>http://www.cmfr.com.ph/pjr-apr3.htmjohn marzanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08036820667908976630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1132737602737661502005-11-23T17:20:00.000+08:002005-11-23T17:20:00.000+08:00The long and short of it is both sides now DENY ba...<I>The long and short of it is both sides now DENY bailing out the suspected terrorist. And both sides do so with no apparent interest whatsoever in ferreting out just WHO did. Which leads me to conclude that they BOTH did and are just trying to do damage control.</I><BR/><BR/>http://www.pcij.org/blog/?p=484<BR/><BR/>“The evidence is definitive and clear regarding the guarantors of the bond,” the network’s report said. “Summit Guaranty and Insurance Company documents released to ABS-CBN show two guarantors and their signatures: <B>Domeng Villeta and Jonathan Tiongco.”</B><BR/><BR/><I>Then there was this declaration of war (or guerra patane?..for Pinoy conversants only sorry) between Palace and Press last week at the Kapisanan ng Brodkaster ng Pilipinas at Camp John Hay [sic!]. But it's too desultory and meaningless to go into right now.</I><BR/><BR/>here's the link of Arroyo's declaration of war with the media.<BR/><BR/>http://www.pcij.org/blog/?p=476<BR/><BR/><I>The long and short of it is both sides now DENY bailing out the suspected terrorist. And both sides do so with no apparent interest whatsoever in ferreting out just WHO did.</I><BR/><BR/>actually, sabi ni GMA na alam raw niya na si Julius Babao ang nag bail kay Dawud Santos.<BR/><BR/>And ABS-CBN is reporting no, it's not julius, the person GMA smeared, but Jonathan Tiongco.<BR/><BR/>jonathan tiongco can file libel suits against PCIJ or ABS-CBN or any other media outlet he wants, but the guy who once claimed that the opposition poisoned mr. FPJ is a joke and taking this guy seriously is a mistake.<BR/><BR/>In my opinion. ;)john marzanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08036820667908976630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1132733646797085902005-11-23T16:14:00.000+08:002005-11-23T16:14:00.000+08:00hey salamat po sa comment...sensya na po im not mu...hey salamat po sa comment...sensya na po im not much of that of a political "kumentarista"...thanks anywaysAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1132725069845677732005-11-23T13:51:00.000+08:002005-11-23T13:51:00.000+08:00Hi XP -- Well I gave them credit for Santo Tomas. ...Hi XP -- Well I gave them credit for Santo Tomas. But I would welcome a complete examination of those 350 years, say in 350 words. <BR/><BR/>Regarding resentment...it's for the weak and juvenile. We must accept what happend in history without ignoring it. But we must also have a ranking of values. I think my main point is that Spain did not teach us SPANISH, and that is why we do not today really LOVE Spain. <BR/><BR/>We might argue in the case of America that it is more of a LOVE-HATE relationship, but at least there IS such a relationship. <BR/><BR/>There is nothing but emptiness in my heart for Spain, except for one brilliant gem... Jose Rizal.<BR/><BR/>But then again, Rizal was neither Spanish, Filipino nor American!Deany Bocobohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1132722246766922842005-11-23T13:04:00.000+08:002005-11-23T13:04:00.000+08:00DJB,Sorry off-topic (because basically I agree wit...DJB,<BR/><BR/>Sorry off-topic (because basically I agree with you on the terrorism issue).<BR/><BR/>Re. religion of resentment, aren't you guilty as well of the same when you dismiss cavalierly the legacy of the Spaniards in the country, despite the arrogant colonialist stance?Resty Odonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06308416791417331341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1132704891078656992005-11-23T08:14:00.000+08:002005-11-23T08:14:00.000+08:00OOOPsOOOPsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1132703657188333112005-11-23T07:54:00.000+08:002005-11-23T07:54:00.000+08:00Thanks Karl...but it is only a Metaphor, not a Par...Thanks Karl...but it is only a Metaphor, not a Parable...Deany Bocobohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1132702589679708702005-11-23T07:36:00.000+08:002005-11-23T07:36:00.000+08:00here I go about crusades and ethnic cleansing..Bos...here I go about crusades and ethnic cleansing..Bosnia,Africa,etc...<BR/><BR/>when the next students of the IMAMS read DJB like a secondary book besides Koran<BR/><BR/>it will be a different worldAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1132702264510289512005-11-23T07:31:00.000+08:002005-11-23T07:31:00.000+08:00DJB once said to me a few days agobe conscious of ...DJB once said to me a few days ago<BR/><BR/>be conscious of what you write..for if google loves you it will be for the next generation<BR/><BR/>just paraphrasing thoughAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com