tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post7009643099102590725..comments2023-10-20T21:46:49.945+08:00Comments on Philippine Commentary: What Some People Don't Know About Galileo's MAGNIFYING TELESCOPEDeany Bocobohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-49715356162914401262007-09-07T21:14:00.000+08:002007-09-07T21:14:00.000+08:00TIKI,The particular example proves that some peopl...TIKI,<BR/>The particular example proves that some people who think they are smart (like Go) and the editorialists who supported him, are actually ignoramuses. They laugh at what they claim are errors, which are not. PDI even wrote an editorial once in which it claimed that Ed San Juan "invented" the Moon Buggy and that some Pinoy named Flores invented the fluorescent bulb. <BR/><BR/>It's just funny because a pot is calling the kettle black.<BR/><BR/>As for my last statement, you are maybe not aware of the history of copyrights in this country, which is why you call it "highly questionable".Deany Bocobohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-75819697871277222602007-09-07T05:58:00.000+08:002007-09-07T05:58:00.000+08:00Are they also sold for P30 each in local book stor...Are they also sold for P30 each in local book stores?<BR/><BR/>Re: academic freedom, I am reacting to what you wrote about what editorialists ignore.<BR/><BR/>The fact that you gave a "particular example" puts your argument into question. Why did you ignore the other examples?<BR/><BR/>Your argument about the market deciding actually supports Go, because he is part of that market.<BR/><BR/>This makes your last statement highly questionable, unless you can prove that Go is working for the government.Tiki Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15933590834437192654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-48282248120052138052007-08-27T07:51:00.000+08:002007-08-27T07:51:00.000+08:00Tiki,One gets what one pays for. How much History...Tiki,<BR/>One gets what one pays for. How much History or Math or Science do you think anybody could put into a text book at P30 each, which is what the public schools averages per textbook?<BR/><BR/>Academic freedom does not correct these errors, which are mostly typos anyway that are only funny if one assumes they were written intentionally out of sheer ignorance.<BR/><BR/>This particular example of the telescope is just to demonstrate that not even the error finders are correct all the time!<BR/><BR/>Which is why, at least in the private sector, it is the market that decides and causes the general improvement of textbook products over time by punishing inferior manufacturers.<BR/><BR/>I think Go represents interests who want the government to take over the industry -- again -- as it did in the olden times, when the getting was REALLY good at DECS as far as corruption.Deany Bocobohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-8100936549996172142007-08-27T05:27:00.000+08:002007-08-27T05:27:00.000+08:00Was the telescope example the only error that Go m...Was the telescope example the only error that Go mentioned? Weren't there dozens of errors mentioned in his ads?<BR/><BR/>Does one need a PhD to identify these errors? Take a look at the errors listed in his ads and see if this point is true.<BR/><BR/>Is it reasonable to argue that public school students should learn about "lowlifes" because they will end up as "lowfiles" anyway?<BR/><BR/>Finally, how does "academic freedom" and "freedom of speech" make these errors correct?Tiki Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15933590834437192654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-43130402789992917292007-08-18T17:41:00.000+08:002007-08-18T17:41:00.000+08:00The reign of error in Philippine textbooks can be ...The reign of error in Philippine textbooks can be read <A HREF="http://pinoypress.net/2007/07/09/burat-learnings-for-make-benefit-glorious-nation-of-philippines" REL="nofollow"/>.<BR/><BR/><BR/>The Rain of Error in Philippine Textbooks (a reaction to a July 9 PDI full-page ad):<BR/><BR/>Authors Lalunio, Ril, and Villafuerte of “<B><I>Hiyas sa Pagbasa 5</I></B>” fame would have been wiser (or would have possessed enough <I>brains</I>) to include in their book the word <I>KUPAL</I> (smegma preputii, the medical term for the white, creamy material underneath the foreskin of the penis) and the words <I>SUPOT</I> (foreskin or the prepuce – the skin covering the <I>head</I> of the penis or the glans penis) and <I>SUPÓT</I> (uncircumcised) along with the word <I>TITI</I>.<BR/><BR/>It is in the age group of the <I>Grade Fivers</I>* that boys get to be enlightened that in an uncircumcised penis there could be an accumulation of considerable amount of smegma around the <I>head</I> or the glans of the penis. This accumulation may lead to irritation in the area and possibly may give rise to infection. Effective cleansing of the area…if ever the prepuce can already be pushed back to expose the glans (<I>TAGPOS</I>, an additional word for the book) or if already circumcised (<I>TULÍ</I>, another potential word that can be added)…has to be inculcated in the young minds not only to prevent infections but also to avoid penile cancer later in life.<BR/><BR/><I>TITI</I> may be <B>abominable</B> to some (esp. to Mr. Antonio Calipjo Go) if considered alone but alongside <I>KUPAL</I> and <I>SUPOT</I> or <I>SUPÓT</I>, the seemingly objectionable word may prove to be relevant after all because…<BR/><BR/><I>Maaaring mangapal<BR/>Nakaririmarim na kupal<BR/>Sa loob ng supot<BR/>Ng mga titing supót</I><BR/><BR/>-----<BR/>*most Filipino boys aged around 11 years are subjected to circumcisionsUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10764224664248262194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-9722063907311645892007-08-18T17:39:00.000+08:002007-08-18T17:39:00.000+08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10764224664248262194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-60518848834116220282007-08-18T09:02:00.000+08:002007-08-18T09:02:00.000+08:00I don't know why Calipjo-Go is upset by the word "...I don't know why Calipjo-Go is upset by the word "titi". The late Professor Ben Miranda of UP, who got a grant from the then NSDB to write a Filipino science dictionary once remarked that this word is the most objective term to describe that part of the male anatomy if we are going to teach biology in Filipino. <BR/><BR/>Prof Miranda also said that the most objective term in Filipino for the female external genitalia is "puki".<BR/><BR/>Semen is "tamod" and not "semilya" or "punla" which is best used to refer to activities in fish farming or planting vegetables.<BR/><BR/>Sexual intercourse is "pagtatalik".<BR/><BR/>Science demands objectivity. Prudery and class elitism (conditioned by our colonial experience) has to be cast aside.Ben Vallejohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02963290696331676531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-91647521640706939642007-08-18T08:44:00.000+08:002007-08-18T08:44:00.000+08:00Telescopes magnify like microscopes do since both ...Telescopes magnify like microscopes do since both instruments have lenses. The modifier "magnify" is better used to describe how well the instrument magnifies, a science student needs to know this to estimate the scale of the object he/she is observing. <BR/><BR/>Correcting errors in our science textbooks is not just the job of people who expose these errors but also by science professionals. PDI editors and even Mr Calipjo-Go are not science professionals. Science professionals have a science degree preferably a PhD in a science discipline, with credentials in research and science education. I have to EMPHASIZE the word research.<BR/><BR/>Now you have probably heard why former UP chancellor Flor Lacanilao says why our science research culture sucks! Many of our science PhDs think that their dissertation caps their careers! <BR/><BR/>Research and the various checks that come with its practice like peer review is the way that science corrects itself. Now ONE OF THE MAJOR REASONS why our textobooks are filled with errors is that the writers of these textbooks even if they have PhDs simply don't do research. They don't do science at all. They don't realize that scientific theory develops and some are even falsified. These writers just rehash outdated textbook concepts.<BR/><BR/>As for the PDI, that blurb will be served well if it sends its science contributors to science journalism class. The first task is to train these journalists to think like a scientist. As a science prof myself, I find it difficult to train students to think scientifically. I exert extra effort to do so since that is my job.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps this is the first step to a science-literate Filipino society. And we should see less of this dependence on psychics and other charlatans by people.Ben Vallejohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02963290696331676531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-83021342601216693412007-08-18T04:27:00.000+08:002007-08-18T04:27:00.000+08:00if there’s a MAGNIFYING telescope there certainly ...if there’s a MAGNIFYING telescope there certainly is a REDUCING one. <B>a <A HREF="http://www.maritime.org/fleetsub/pscope/chap1.htm" REL="nofollow">submarine periscope</A> has both.</B><BR/><BR/>the trouble with a COLPOSCOPE is that it has gender. <B>a CYSTOSCOPE has none</B>…although oftentimes it is used <A HREF="http://www.urolog.nl/urolog/images/menu/turp.jpg" REL="nofollow">in males with prostate problems</A>.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10764224664248262194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-78220969748038192562007-08-18T01:00:00.000+08:002007-08-18T01:00:00.000+08:00A nice lighthearted segue from more cerebral stuff...A nice lighthearted segue from more cerebral stuff, Dean.<BR/><BR/>And trying to ease into the uneasy role of petty nitpicker, I was ready to jump at colposcopy and say that maybe you probably meant colonoscopy since I was reminded about the latter by my very polite young FilAm doctor the other day during my annuals (not anals, HeHeHe).<BR/><BR/>Oops! Good that I had second thoughts. But then you can’t expect me to be familiar with something that would never be applicable to me. HeHeHe.Amadeohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00040096079637569742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-78410585340253191342007-08-16T18:15:00.000+08:002007-08-16T18:15:00.000+08:00Jego,I do believe Galileo is credited with the ver...Jego,<BR/>I do believe Galileo is credited with the very great distinction of being the first human being EVER to see a heavenly body going around another heavenly body that was NOT the earth. that was when he trained a telescope he had made from I believe anton von leeuenhook's microscope design (or was it spectacles, I forget and could look it up but havent) and saw for the first time the moons of jupiter over several weeks realized they were orbiting jupiter. That was the first observational refutation of geocentricity.<BR/><BR/>The telescope he created was an invention in the sense that that was the first time magnifying glasses were used for astronomy. <BR/>He saw the moon with it first before see Jupiter's moons.<BR/><BR/>He is the inventor of magnifying telescopes for astronomy, that's for sure.Deany Bocobohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-73532615309524087672007-08-16T16:43:00.000+08:002007-08-16T16:43:00.000+08:00By the by, DJB, from the PDI editorial you linked,...By the by, DJB, from the PDI editorial you linked, it is quite possible that what PDI found objectionable was attributing the invention of the telescope to Galileo--a factual error--and not to the use of 'magnifying telescope.' Im willing to give the editorial the benefit of the daw.Jegohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11806891595153451306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-13697568883843574312007-08-16T15:03:00.000+08:002007-08-16T15:03:00.000+08:00Hehehe, next we'll tackle how he criticizes the us...Hehehe, next we'll tackle how he criticizes the use of Aesop's Fables and other "literary fantasies" in textbooks. I wonder why he's such a prude about the names of body parts in science and health textbooks. Also, I think that given most of our public school graduates are destined to be either tricycle drivers or GROs, unless they become OFWs, they surely ought to know about pimps and assorted lowlifes, if they don't already!Deany Bocobohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-61077847271605518922007-08-16T13:37:00.000+08:002007-08-16T13:37:00.000+08:00Jeg, but a [refracting] telescopes can also make t...Jeg, but a [refracting] telescopes can also make things look smaller if you look at the wrong end, so 'magnifying telescope' is perhaps a more precise term ;-)cvjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00327799000000108953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-70562649738155261182007-08-16T11:27:00.000+08:002007-08-16T11:27:00.000+08:00'Magnifying telescope' is redundant since as far a...'Magnifying telescope' is redundant since as far as I can tell from my grade school science, there is no such thing as a reducing telescope and I suspect no need for one in the foreseeable future. Galileo constructed (not invented--that distinction belongs to somebody else if memory serves) high quality refracting telescopes, while someone else invented the reflecting telescope.<BR/><BR/>It's not bad science. Just bad patent-office English. :-DJegohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11806891595153451306noreply@blogger.com