tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post5480575329705948631..comments2023-10-20T21:46:49.945+08:00Comments on Philippine Commentary: Darwin's RevengeDeany Bocobohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-13711899544105240522008-07-19T12:51:00.000+08:002008-07-19T12:51:00.000+08:00The church also appeared to have brainwashed its i...The church also appeared to have brainwashed its ignorant and uneducated adherents on the notion that contraception is no different than abortion and therefore sinful, tantamount to the murder of the unborn. <BR/><BR/>Contraception has never been a hotly debated issue in first world countries and the church appear tight-lipped about it which is quite perplexing because it is where they must passionately preach the go forth and multiply commandment in view of the serious population decline trend !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-56544021815173084382008-07-18T09:30:00.000+08:002008-07-18T09:30:00.000+08:00dean: nice, passionate rebuttal. i like it. thanks...dean: nice, passionate rebuttal. i like it. thanks.Dave Lloritohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13592787212335457164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-2819416719217552012008-07-18T02:01:00.000+08:002008-07-18T02:01:00.000+08:00DJ etal,You may find this dissent by Canadian bish...DJ etal,<BR/><BR/>You may find this dissent by Canadian bishops to certain parts of Humanae Vitae very interesting<BR/><BR/>The Winnipeg Statement at http://www.catholic-legate.com/articles/winnipeg.htmlmanuelbuencaminohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07644763064403005323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-83747932552342840762008-07-17T20:43:00.000+08:002008-07-17T20:43:00.000+08:00the argument that population doesn't matter doesn'...the argument that population doesn't matter doesn't hold any water. Even if obese people can live and breathe and reproduce some more, the quality of their lives is highly questionable. It's a seductive argument that says, let's just change the subject and work on other problems.<BR/><BR/>I don't disagree with working on other problems, like corruption and peace and order, but even as we solve those problems, overpopulation is like a denominator that divides and dimishes all progress.<BR/><BR/>Besides, we already know that when people get smarter, they just don't act like rats and rabbits.<BR/><BR/>But it's not a chicken or the egg came first situation at all. I think getting smarter comes before we get richer. We gotta get smarter about population because it is a kind of absolute limiter of what can be achieved at any given point in time.Deany Bocobohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-68002801297968227072008-07-17T20:38:00.000+08:002008-07-17T20:38:00.000+08:00David,Both horses and elephants, like China and In...David,<BR/>Both horses and elephants, like China and India are much larger than men or mosquitos. Yet there is such a thing as obesity in all these animals.<BR/><BR/>Just because China has over a billion people doesn't mean a large population is indeed in and of itself bad. But look at their birth rate. They could easily have been 2 billion people by now instead of a billion. They've always been conscious of famine on a colossal scale, which I think accounts for their stringent, maybe even draconian population policies. <BR/><BR/>But I think you get the point.<BR/><BR/>We are obese like a 500 pound human being. They are about as slick as healthy hippopotamus. As their economy grows, China, if it maintains population control, could become a sleek racehorse, even if it will always be bigger than Blimpo (us).Deany Bocobohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-13110807351642993252008-07-17T20:04:00.000+08:002008-07-17T20:04:00.000+08:00i generally agree with you all. but let me pose a...i generally agree with you all. but let me pose a counterintuitive idea: countries like china, india, and brazil-- these are the fastest growing countries in the world today. poverty is declining, and other indicators are getting optimistic reviews. now these countries also have large population and it seems the demographics are not hurting their economic prospects at all. don't these trends tell us that population control is important but may no longer be as compelling an ingredient in the quest for economic growth and progress?Dave Lloritohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13592787212335457164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-39970704397476197532008-07-17T19:57:00.000+08:002008-07-17T19:57:00.000+08:00mb: you are naughty! hahaha!mb: you are naughty! hahaha!Dave Lloritohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13592787212335457164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-10533870320206439982008-07-17T18:59:00.000+08:002008-07-17T18:59:00.000+08:00"Humana Vitae" left Paul VI shell shocked that thi..."Humana Vitae" left Paul VI shell shocked that this was the last encyclical he ever wrote. Paul VI realized he was disconnected from what was happening around him.<BR/><BR/>As a Catholic (a non regular Mass attender who carries the Anglican-use prayer book all the time!), I think the encyclical needs more thorough reflection especially with new developments in science,especially in environmental science. This can only be done in a prayerful manner. We haven't really constructed a theology of human life and environment. <BR/><BR/>What has happened is that the Catholic pro-lifers have become fundamentalist with "Humana vitae" to the extent that they are blinded from the objective reality surrounding them.This is totally un-Catholic as what one good priest I know said, is contrary to what Thomas Aquinas would have done. Aquinas would never have cast aside reason in theological understanding.<BR/><BR/>The hysterical reaction of some Philippine bishops means only one thing, blind fundamentalism without reason. DJB has the right to call them "Taliban". They presume they know the truth but in reality can't see the truth.<BR/><BR/>In the current debate the good old Running Priest (now a meditative one!and future Archbishop of the Diocese of Diliman) is on the right track!Ben Vallejohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02963290696331676531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-88766104732403227362008-07-17T15:10:00.000+08:002008-07-17T15:10:00.000+08:00Instead of preaching a negative approach to popula...Instead of preaching a negative approach to population policy, the Catholic Cgurch should go positive and advocate population neutral sexual acts like masturbation and gay maariages. Besides those are practices they are very familiar with.manuelbuencaminohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07644763064403005323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-81983023574706929732008-07-17T10:46:00.000+08:002008-07-17T10:46:00.000+08:00The CBCP really puts on this condescending attitu...The CBCP really puts on this condescending attitude of "...you are all just children unable to think clearly" because survey after survey has shown that all income-segments want help in controlling the size and the timing of arrivals of their children (and the poor want it more badly)!!!Brenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18410235271937745868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-9831490070624958472008-07-17T10:20:00.000+08:002008-07-17T10:20:00.000+08:00...with even the oppositionist Bishop Dominguez pr...<I>...with even the oppositionist Bishop Dominguez proclaiming that "they" will tell voters to shun Representatives who support the measure.</I><BR/><BR/>I say 'Bring it, Dominguez'. Im not the biggest fan of universal suffrage but if it'll take a resounding victory by those who support the bill in the elections to let these bishops know how irrelevant they are, I'd be happy to campaign for these reps in any capacity I can.Jegohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11806891595153451306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-47191907603883065182008-07-17T08:10:00.000+08:002008-07-17T08:10:00.000+08:00Why is the Catholic Church in this country so cons...Why is the Catholic Church in this country so conservative and backward- looking (like being 100% against population control)?<BR/><BR/>God answers:They take very literally the "Go forth and multiply" adage without realizing that your land space has not increased even an inch since the earth's creation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com