tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post4022101198319697002..comments2023-10-20T21:46:49.945+08:00Comments on Philippine Commentary: The Whistleblower Still Is HeardDeany Bocobohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-74473213807731484082008-06-27T17:59:00.000+08:002008-06-27T17:59:00.000+08:00mb: in that case, we dont have a quarrel. thanks f...mb: in that case, we dont have a quarrel. thanks for clarifying.Dave Lloritohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13592787212335457164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-38367297994261221062008-06-27T17:24:00.000+08:002008-06-27T17:24:00.000+08:00Dave,I too hate nepotism. I was talking about the ...Dave,<BR/><BR/>I too hate nepotism. I was talking about the good aspects of "familism". So we can go completely modern without letting go of those values and traditions that keep us together as one family.manuelbuencaminohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07644763064403005323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-2479804108731394372008-06-27T14:23:00.000+08:002008-06-27T14:23:00.000+08:00Folks,What exactly is the difference between Myanm...Folks,<BR/>What exactly is the difference between Myanmar and the Philippines with respect to foreign aid? Not much that I can see. It is radical international politics that informs those who are suddenly nuclear weapons Constitutionalists. They are like Mike Dukakis --able to ignore human tragedy and the simple generosity of a perhaps overly generous other because of their intellectual ideology.<BR/><BR/>I think President Bush was sincerely commiserating with Filipinos. So what does he get from PDI+Unifors? <BR/><BR/>Pakikiramay you say? it's Bush teaching us a virtue we seem to have forgotten. It's not just buffoonishness, but a graceless, indecent buffoonishness that reveals a warped sense of values. People who hate Gloria and hate America's President are willing to make Filipinos suffer behind their shield of false pride and patriotism that is really a form of self-loathing that only a <B>failed</B> ruling class evinces. They secretly wish the Philippines were as strong and progressive as America but won't blame our own foolishness for the failure. <BR/><BR/>America is their indispensable grievance and excuse for our own failures. It is mirthless, humorless and essentially cruel and inhuman.Deany Bocobohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-78361693812311061662008-06-27T14:20:00.000+08:002008-06-27T14:20:00.000+08:00MB: I like the Bonnie and Clyde thing. lol!But hon...MB: I like the Bonnie and Clyde thing. lol!<BR/><BR/>But honestly, if we want this country to progress, we should not run this country like a family. it's "familism" that creates nepotism, that prevents the rise of strong institutions, and the rule of law. <BR/><BR/>we care for our families, but we probably dont like the idea of our wakes, our days and nights of mourning, being tarnished by politicians coming over with a whole brigade of media to have their photo ops. <BR/><BR/>but really, i respect your views and its a matter of opinion.Dave Lloritohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13592787212335457164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-691945848484366342008-06-27T13:36:00.000+08:002008-06-27T13:36:00.000+08:00dave,A nation should be a family.But you're right....dave,<BR/><BR/>A nation should be a family.<BR/><BR/>But you're right. If those Bonnie and Clyde were my parents, I would put myself up for adoption! lol!manuelbuencaminohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07644763064403005323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-5541331744310994562008-06-27T13:32:00.000+08:002008-06-27T13:32:00.000+08:00I got your point MB and I believe in the pakikiram...I got your point MB and I believe in the pakikiramay thing.<BR/><BR/>But consider this: A nation is not even a family. And if it is, you probably wont accept that GMA and Mike A is your mom and dad. lol!Dave Lloritohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13592787212335457164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-55054306574134520682008-06-27T13:03:00.000+08:002008-06-27T13:03:00.000+08:00Dave,Think of a nation as a family. When a tragedy...Dave,<BR/><BR/>Think of a nation as a family. When a tragedy occurs, you want the father and the mother are expected to stay with their family.manuelbuencaminohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07644763064403005323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-46022624885827018182008-06-27T12:31:00.000+08:002008-06-27T12:31:00.000+08:00Ang saya dito! I guess this is the reason why i re...Ang saya dito! I guess this is the reason why i really like Dean's blog. He has this uncanny way of eliciting the best and worst of us. I dont always agree with Dean, but i admire his intellectual courage to tell the world what he thinks about anything.<BR/><BR/>Re Gloria: its a damn if you do and damn if you dont for her. if she shows up there with tears in her eyes, people would always say its nothing but photo op. it would actually be better for her to just mobilize the agencies to do what needs to be done.Dave Lloritohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13592787212335457164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-35923531133639172572008-06-27T12:02:00.000+08:002008-06-27T12:02:00.000+08:00Thanks Jego for clearing things up. Nagcilim kasi ...Thanks Jego for clearing things up. Nagcilim kasi paningin ni DJB nung ginamit ko yun bush quote sa cartoon.<BR/><BR/>I was reminding Gloria about an admirable Filipino trait: pakikiramay. It is a vital part of the bayanihan spirit <BR/><BR/>Actually what the US did is pakikiramay. After all, they didn't need to send aid since Gloria was hands on and had everything under control anyway.manuelbuencaminohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07644763064403005323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-11227938600481699152008-06-27T11:56:00.000+08:002008-06-27T11:56:00.000+08:00"We still look at them as a loose organization wit..."We still look at them as a loose organization with some splinter groups, in fact, some of them may be conducting their own operations, and now, has degenerated into a money-making group devoid of any ideology or cause," AFP choef Yano said.<BR/><BR/>So are we dealing with criminals or terrorists?manuelbuencaminohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07644763064403005323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-57849192253858504322008-06-27T11:19:00.000+08:002008-06-27T11:19:00.000+08:00Hi bren. I had to go back to uniffors again to see...Hi bren. I had to go back to uniffors again to see if there was something I missed, but the column in question doesnt even address the fact that the Yanks are sending help. It was all about Gloria's crassness. There is nothing in the article, one way or another, that says whether or not uniffors is thankful or disdainful of the help. Who knows? Maybe he is indeed grateful, I dont know. In any case, the article DJB linked to does not address the Ronald Reagan coming over to help.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps it's the rather irreverent cartoon about the <A HREF="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/presidentbush/2008/06/bush-jokes-abou.html" REL="nofollow">PUSA's joke</A> that got DJB upset? (Yes even the not-Bush-friendly LA Times reported that it was a joke, and not another demonstration of Dubya's dimness, as Huffington post portrays it.)<BR/><BR/>Dubya is fair game for jokes, DJB. IMO, you went overboard with your defense of Dubya when you questioned MB about what he has done for this country in that particular blog post. Wait for MB's stand on the Ronald Reagan coming over.<BR/><BR/>(A university really ought to set up a debate between you two. Theyll sell a lot of tickets. By the way, does anybody know if universities actually do this? They should. MLQ3 could moderate.)Jegohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11806891595153451306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-76545362478033386722008-06-27T10:51:00.000+08:002008-06-27T10:51:00.000+08:00"There is no known name for this form of self-serv..."There is no known name for this form of self-serving statistical fudging, where it is the percent change in the percent statistic that is percented, err, presented, so I shall invent a neologism for it: Philippinnumeracy!"<BR/><BR/>Hate to break it to you DJB, but such a thing does exist, by name...in the democrat controlled US congress, it's called 'baseline budgeting'. What that means, in financial terms, is that a decrease in the RATE of budget increases for pork-barrel social spending programs represents a 'decrease' in the budget...i.e., instead of wasteful pork-barrel project increasing in this years budget by 7 percent, it was, instead, increased by only 6 percent, which represents a 1% decrease, thus the budget for said program was cut!?!rchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08171802835534034109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-67750745781842347082008-06-27T10:23:00.000+08:002008-06-27T10:23:00.000+08:00jego: I disagree re Uniffors. Another country has...jego: I disagree re Uniffors. <BR/><BR/>Another country has sent technical and professional help putting its citizens at risk for underwater dives for body recovery; technical help plus equipment and personnel for search-and-rescue; helicopter support to transport supplies; others. Had the Russians done it, then you thank the Russians. Had the Chinese done it, then you thank the Chinese. When the USA does it, then you say "thank you".<BR/><BR/>Good manners dictates that you say thank you.<BR/><BR/>Uniffors has acted like a buffoon.Brenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18410235271937745868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-20841002109442957312008-06-27T09:53:00.000+08:002008-06-27T09:53:00.000+08:00I was just over at uniffors, DJB. I thought what h...I was just over at uniffors, DJB. I thought what he wrote in his column was fair. There was nothing in it about the Ronald Reagan coming over to help. It was about the Filipino trait of pakikiramay.Jegohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11806891595153451306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-8382648832154907792008-06-27T07:31:00.000+08:002008-06-27T07:31:00.000+08:00jaywalker,But practically the only thing that sust...jaywalker,<BR/>But practically the only thing that sustains them is the ample propaganda support of the likes of PDI, who are also leading the fight to make the Philippines look as much like Myanmar as possible, with all that stuff over the generous aid being offered by the US.Deany Bocobohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-60598609284467092262008-06-27T02:47:00.000+08:002008-06-27T02:47:00.000+08:00DJ,Congrats on the show. So it seems the "terroris...DJ,<BR/><BR/>Congrats on the show. So it seems the "terrorist" can't get enough of this kidnapping stuff. I doubt if propaganda mileage was on their mind on Ces Drillon's case as all the talking was done by the negotiators and public officials.... It was more of a business transaction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com