tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post115077268096372440..comments2023-10-20T21:46:49.945+08:00Comments on Philippine Commentary: Dr. Jekyll and Mr. HydeDeany Bocobohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1151047305314178852006-06-23T15:21:00.000+08:002006-06-23T15:21:00.000+08:00MB,I never said he should resign - on the contrary...MB,<BR/><BR/>I never said he should resign - on the contrary, I don't think he should! That's why I said it was a dumb thing to do if he did it.<BR/><BR/>As BFR said, inis, talo!HILLBLOGGERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05977843513566589811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1151017408474806062006-06-23T07:03:00.000+08:002006-06-23T07:03:00.000+08:00MB, I am with you. De Leon should not have resign...MB, I am with you. De Leon should not have resigned. Nuong araw sa tambayan namin sa kanto ang tawag diyan ay "INIS TALO." Ang unang mainis ay talo. Nainis si De Leon, umalis, talo siya, panalo si Gloria.<BR/><BR/>Now, those who are against Gloria in the marines are depleted by one good man. That is substraction. You are right it should be the other way around.Bernardo F. Ronquillohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04054476909603464900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1150989827828486532006-06-22T23:23:00.000+08:002006-06-22T23:23:00.000+08:00Dean,(Btw, it's 12°c here!) Re: Feb 24 is resign e...Dean,<BR/><BR/>(Btw, it's 12°c here!) <BR/><BR/>Re: Feb 24 is resign en masse: Unrealistic Dean! <BR/><BR/>Re: "Is that "allowed"?" Not a question of being allowed (he can even defy a superior command if he really wants to)... but he's gotta ask himself, if he would "allow" an "underling" to do the same. <BR/><BR/>Why is the resignation en masse unrealistic? Coz it's not strategic, wasn't the order furthermore... Anyway, Marines are human beings too (even if they were trained not to "think" but just to obey) - you can't expect a couple of thousand Marines officers and men to resign en masse - there's bound to be half of them who will stay compelled by their belief that it's their sworn duty to the republic to stay on, etc.<BR/><BR/>And even if half did, Gloria would have fielded PSG to quarantime them - in the end you'd have a showdown and a fratricide.<BR/><BR/>The Marines wouldn't do that - fight brother officers or they wouldn't be the Marines anymore.<BR/><BR/>If de Leon hasn't resigned YET, he shouldn't. He must be among his men. It would be useless to resign. Unless of course, he's decided to go all out by squealing to the Senate but I don't think he would do that (not now or not yet)within the next couple of weeks or a month at most, otherwise, no use!<BR/><BR/>I wonder... if you have the Marines being divided and having self-doubt like they seem to be today, the AFP leadership may be in worse trouble than what we see. <BR/><BR/>Anwyay, the Gloria gambit that you pointed out is, shall I say, the BEST gambit - no soldier, (even if he's only "grunt", "grunt") would wanna be called a commie lover.HILLBLOGGERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05977843513566589811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1150986426075042302006-06-22T22:27:00.000+08:002006-06-22T22:27:00.000+08:00HB,Right! I am hoping that de Leon has figured tha...HB,<BR/>Right! I am hoping that de Leon has figured that out about eo464. That is, if he is inclined to rat on his buddies or superiors. Is that "allowed"? Of course, if the SEnate compels him to testify!<BR/>Say, this was what I was saying they should ALL have done last Feb 24 is resign en masse, drop their uniforms, commissions and all...and joined Cory.Deany Bocobohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1150985542524063662006-06-22T22:12:00.000+08:002006-06-22T22:12:00.000+08:00Dean,Ninez O Cacho might be wrong here (appearing ...Dean,<BR/><BR/>Ninez O Cacho might be wrong here (appearing in her tomorrow's column): "Simple. With his resignation, De Leon is now free to speak out his mind, and even more important, De Leon is no longer covered by Executive Order (EO) 464, Gloria’s gag rule which has already been struck down by the high court, but which Gloria and her cohorts in the military continue to enforce, clearly to keep up with their cover-up operations."<BR/><BR/>The military service doen't recognize an officer resigned for as long as his resignation papers haven't been "processed" by the service, i.e., accepted by the board, given the ANCS-N1 imprimatur "retired". Technically, until that's done, de Leon may be tried in a court martial (UCMJ). <BR/><BR/>From what I've read, your note included, he resigned his position but not his commission yet... dunno, mebbe am wrong - mebbe he's already out of the service, effective yesterday?HILLBLOGGERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05977843513566589811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1150978362755426632006-06-22T20:12:00.000+08:002006-06-22T20:12:00.000+08:00hullo guys!Dean, just one comment - technically, i...hullo guys!<BR/><BR/>Dean, just one comment - technically, it was GRP that announced that peace talks were suspênded when JdV went to Utrecht in July last year to announce the suspension - he caught poor Joma in the jaw there.<BR/><BR/>MB,<BR/><BR/>I agree with you - both are despots and I AM PUTTING them in the same basket (I know both personally and are on speaking terms with both.) <BR/><BR/>Dean, if you asked me to choose between the two, you'd be disappointed coz I'd refuse to choose. I'd rather the nation went into an all out frontal war - the dreaded civil war - than choose between the two coz one or the other represents violence and war just the same - between them they will destroy the last remaining fabric of national sanity, with one or both around, the nation cannot aspire for anything other than a war of attrition with the majority of the poor being the collateral damage... <BR/><BR/>I'd rather take a chance and have you, MB, Quezon (not Luis Teodoro), Lito Banayo, Ellen, Ducky, Randy David, (even Archbishop Cruz at the helm of the govt than one of those 2.<BR/><BR/>MB, got ur message...HILLBLOGGERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05977843513566589811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1150972108502344682006-06-22T18:28:00.000+08:002006-06-22T18:28:00.000+08:00MB--The reason the NDF gave for breaking off peace...MB--The reason the NDF gave for breaking off peace talks was the Philippine Government's refusal to do something beyond its power or wisdom that the NDF wanted: for the CPP NPA to be removed from the list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations of BOTH the US and the EU. Those lists are reviewed annually and their presence on those lists has been reaffirmed by both EU and US 5 times in a row since 2001. <BR/><BR/>Now what that means is that the US and the EU certainly consider the CPP NPA at least as potential threats against them, not just the Philippines itself. <BR/><BR/>There really isn't anything decisive the Philippine govt can do about it. <BR/><BR/>Besides, they ARE terrorists. And they're only using the peace talks to hide the fact that they are actually at war with the prosperity and peace of the Filipino people. That they are engaged in a violent revolution to overthrow the govt. But in nearly 40 years of trying, their revolution has degenerated into organized extortion on a nationwide scale. <BR/><BR/>I don't care if the peace talks ever get started again. They have no endpoint for the CPP other than our complete surrender to their crazy ideas. <BR/><BR/>I'll take GMA over Joma any century. Any election, if those were the only choices. You? Be honest MB. Who would you vote for in a fair and free election? <BR/><BR/>Joma or GMA?<BR/><BR/>(That by the way is her present gambit).Deany Bocobohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1150935168613648982006-06-22T08:12:00.000+08:002006-06-22T08:12:00.000+08:00Labels are something that OTHER people put on you;...Labels are something that OTHER people put on you; but POWERFUL IDEAS are something you subscribe to YOURSELF. And if these ideas guides your life, it is because you voluntarily want them to. <BR/><BR/>Labels are how people look at you; but powerful ideas are how you look at yourself. You should not act the way other people expect because of their label on you but because of the powerful ideas that you believe in and live by.<BR/><BR/>There is nothing more powerful than the message of the Saving Grace of JESUS CHRIST. And by HIs Words, Life, Death, and Resurrection, I live, no matter what label other people put on me.Bernardo F. Ronquillohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04054476909603464900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1150932782445123422006-06-22T07:33:00.000+08:002006-06-22T07:33:00.000+08:00"No one falls under a simple set of labels!"...Fle...<B>"No one falls under a simple set of labels!"</B>...Fleetwood Mac.<BR/><BR/>But like "Jew" or "Gentile", or "kuffar" among the Muslims, labels can be a powerful force. Labels are memes. Durable, sticky memes.<BR/><BR/>You can't fight memes by ignoring them. They just take over more brains. You have to have better memes, better ideas, better logic. <BR/><BR/>I think, it's how we got to be this way. We are enslaved by several powerfuyl ideas.Deany Bocobohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1150931124499394382006-06-22T07:05:00.000+08:002006-06-22T07:05:00.000+08:00Left, center, Right, Left-off-center, Right-off-ce...Left, center, Right, Left-off-center, Right-off-center. DJB, labels do not a make a man but rather it is men who invented those labels to EXPLAIN AWAY every actions and utterances of men. Sa akin, wala silang pakialam. I refuse to be labelled and I don't want to be ruled by those labels.<BR/><BR/>De Leon should not have resigned. He should have stayed on and followed Rizal's SIMOUN from the inside and not as an outsider. Malacanang will ignore the resignation and will even put a spin on it that is favorable to Gloria. However, I believe that he is anything but dumb and must have something up his sleeve and his sacrifice will not be ignored by the people.<BR/><BR/>A man like Rizal, who will use his genius not to enrich himself but to serve his people to the point of sacrificing his life for them, comes only once to a nation. "Greater love has no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friend." But there are those who can approximate even half of what he was.Bernardo F. Ronquillohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04054476909603464900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1150928231856961462006-06-22T06:17:00.000+08:002006-06-22T06:17:00.000+08:00Come on DJB, you are the Physicist.SIRIT na!I know...Come on DJB, you are the Physicist.<BR/><BR/>SIRIT na!<BR/><BR/>I know it has something to do with light and wachamacollit reflection,refraction<BR/><BR/>nagkataon lang that what you see in the mirror again has to pass your eyes and eventually to the brain...<BR/><BR/>MB,<BR/>ikaw na lang, ..sinubukan ko lang.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1150924672430550542006-06-22T05:17:00.000+08:002006-06-22T05:17:00.000+08:00MB--Puzzle me this...I am right-handed (like most ...MB--Puzzle me this...I am right-handed (like most people) but when I brush my teeth in front of the mirror in the morning, I seem to be using my left hand to do so. And it doesn't matter what position I take in front of the mirror: I can twist around, even lie down in front of the mirror: my "other" is left-handed! Yet the mirror never reverses me head to foot! How in the world does the mirror do that? It reverses me left to right but not up to down. How does the mirror know what position I've assumed in front of it?<BR/><BR/> You can observe your own reflection in a mirror to verify all the above.<BR/><BR/>(The explanation is not at all simple.)Deany Bocobohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1150924356883832752006-06-22T05:12:00.000+08:002006-06-22T05:12:00.000+08:00The Submariner--General Mayuga was actually on TV ...The Submariner--General Mayuga was actually on TV last night, seeming to back de Leon. He was apparently Mayuga's 2nd chief of staff (?), so not a dumb guy. But as you say it would've been dumb for him to resign his commission NOW. That means he DIDN'T resign but was pressured as you surmised. Part of the cleaning out from last February no?Deany Bocobohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1150919555307655612006-06-22T03:52:00.000+08:002006-06-22T03:52:00.000+08:00Hi Dean,Been thinking of the 3rd top man in the Ma...Hi Dean,<BR/><BR/>Been thinking of the 3rd top man in the Marines.<BR/><BR/>Pretty surprising move - to throw away 28 years of service ain't easy; Marines don't do that, leaving the corps unless something dastardly was happening.<BR/><BR/>Have met Col de Leon a couple of times when he was a junior officer; can't say he impressed me as anyone other than a Marine.<BR/><BR/>This resignation is futile! I believe he was "pressured to resign" - Mayuga didn't have to say it to his face; Mayuga probably asked Allaga to "freeze" de Leon and it got to him.<BR/><BR/>Could've only been that or mebbe de Leon was "challenged", "pressured" to resign somehow - either that or he was told he wasn't going to the US for the schooling after all (what with his links with Querubin) and in a fit of stupidity, he put his foot in his mouth! Dumb thing to do! Now he will be useless as a wet newspaper.<BR/><BR/>Dumb thing to do really. He's better off fighting 'em rotten pigs (Mayuga after all is gonna be FOIC for only few months more, he's retiring in December 2006) from within than from the outside. Allaga wouldn't be there forever; guys retiring in a couple of years too!<BR/><BR/>He'll have the AFP counter-intel service on his back from now on when he could have pooh-pooed them while in service.<BR/><BR/>Oh well... Tell that to the Marines, you say? Yeah, tell de Leon that was one dumb thing he did - resign his rank when he could"ve toppled Gloria with the rest of the Marine Corps.<BR/><BR/>Dumb thing to do!HILLBLOGGERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05977843513566589811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1150887176004560322006-06-21T18:52:00.000+08:002006-06-21T18:52:00.000+08:00I agree JMakabayan, Jm na lang that we should not ...I agree JMakabayan, Jm na lang that we should not label.<BR/><BR/>pare preho tayong mga tao dito<BR/>na nasa bottomless pit.<BR/><BR/>About another two billion wasted,<BR/><BR/>Lord dracula or Arbet blogged about it.<BR/><BR/>AWBholdings.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1150877166391286682006-06-21T16:06:00.000+08:002006-06-21T16:06:00.000+08:00I'm depressed about this too, JMakabayan, I mean ...I'm depressed about this too, JMakabayan, I mean that it has come to this. Maybe Neal Cruz is right, that the P1 billion is just an unsubtle bribe to the police and military as part of the impeachment flak, the killings ought not to intensify. <BR/><BR/>Who do you think IS behind the killings, or is it a mixture?Deany Bocobohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.com