tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post113929505907220289..comments2023-10-20T21:46:49.945+08:00Comments on Philippine Commentary: Freedom of Religion IS Freedom of ExpressionDeany Bocobohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1139483558858044812006-02-09T19:12:00.000+08:002006-02-09T19:12:00.000+08:00Econblogger, It's a subversion as well as a protec...Econblogger, It's a subversion as well as a protection for religion. By insulating the State from each of the set of CONTRADICTORY beliefs that the churches represent, they can still all agree on the morality and behavior withoug killing each other in the argument.Deany Bocobohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1139381163738864672006-02-08T14:46:00.000+08:002006-02-08T14:46:00.000+08:00DJB,Democracy as a subversion of religion? It is i...DJB,<BR/><BR/>Democracy as a subversion of religion? It is indeed the logical outcome of the Enlightenment, the rise of a secular culture and secular state, and its social contract with religious individuals. Indeed this freedom gets rammed down your throat - you must tolerate peacefully the acts of "blasphemy" of others. You do however get to "blaspheme" others freely. Unfortunately some (many?)religious individuals, enamored of visions of absolute truth, errect their absolutism above such contracts. <BR/><BR/>Fire with fire.Roehlanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04018109135738021378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1139366535729376542006-02-08T10:42:00.000+08:002006-02-08T10:42:00.000+08:00DJB,the last post nearly sent me spinning out, if ...DJB,the last post nearly sent me spinning out, if not for your conclusion.<BR/><BR/>Christians were first called Christians in Antioch. This is the Original Apostolic Christian Church. This was not the Roman Catholic Church or the Iglesia Apostolica Catolica Romana that is of Alexandria. The latter spinned out of the former at the same time that pagan style and pagan target of worship entered the church when even pagan Roman soldiers were declared Christians. <BR/><BR/>The Apostolic Christian Church continued but the Catholic Church spinned out and emphasized itself as what you call a tool to reach "the peak of the mountain" --which I presume is the Kingdom of God or Salvation-- by WORKING FOR IT by means of RELIGION. Thus you said: "Religion is a kind of tool -- a moral compass -- that guides human beings when we strive to do good."<BR/><BR/>Protestant Churches of today, however, do not regard themselves as a tool to do good in order to enter the Kingdom of God. Thus, we do not regard ourselves as a RELIGION but as a Fellowship of Christian Believers. For us, entering the Kingdom is by FAITH that Jesus paid for our sins when He died on the cross, you cannot work for it by doing good works.<BR/><BR/>Ours therefore, is not a Religion, but a FAITH that when we were still sinners Jesus Christ died for us. The Roman Catholic Church of today, especially in our country, does not exemplify a true Christian. Please do not lump all other Christians, especially Protestants like us, with them.<BR/><BR/>But you are right DJB, MY BEING ABLE TO SAY ALL THESE THINGS IS THE TRUE ESSENCE OF FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION.Bernardo F. Ronquillohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04054476909603464900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1139333497359746442006-02-08T01:31:00.000+08:002006-02-08T01:31:00.000+08:00In the midst of the all the heat and rhetoric, it ...In the midst of the all the heat and rhetoric, it is still a question of how this little "green dot" sees this conflict collectively.<BR/><BR/>The map below tells us graphically how the world is divided:<BR/><BR/>http://face-of-muhammed.blogspot.com/2006/02/cartoon-war-overview.html<BR/><BR/>And there is no Gaia here, only fissures and pressure points, all straining to the breaking point.Amadeohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00040096079637569742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14974164.post-1139317698870877432006-02-07T21:08:00.000+08:002006-02-07T21:08:00.000+08:00I'll check him out too MBI'll check him out too MBDeany Bocobohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.com